Note: this was meant to be a reply to a comment. But it's about 3 times over the size limit for the comment section so I had to post it this way. Here's the comment, originally from
the post immediately before this one.:
"have made a strategic choice to ignore one reality and substitute their
own. That's frustrating because A) it's so obviously wrong, and B) so
many people appear to think that's a good idea. It's baffling"
Obama
has been doing this for years and is doing his best to down grade
America to the same level as third world countries, but you're more
concerned about Romeny messing up the percentage of money that PBS gets.
That's what baffles me.
Well, I think you're wrong. I'll try to
explain why and you can tell me what you think.
Also, this went way
longer than I intended, so there's a summary at the end. There are 2 basic methods for
advocating political issues. 1 method is to disagree over something
using a shared reality. So, for example, one could say:
I think:
1. Obama's healthcare reform (PPACA)
represents an inappropriate overreach of the federal government.
2. While the health insurance market
currently (pre-PPACA) is bad, PPACA is not the best way to go about
fixing it and in fact is an undesirable thing overall.
And that's fine. I think the above
statement is wrong but it's dealing with facts. It's a situation
where there are real things we agree on and differing opinions based
on those things everyone acknowledges are real. But there's a second
way to say things, I'll use a similar example
from the above argument, this one has the crucial differences that I'm trying to elucidate:
I think:
1. Obama's healthcare reform (PPACA)
represents a government takeover of healthcare.
2. PPACA is a socialist program.
3. It creates a death panel: a board of
bureaucrats who will be rationing health care (a situation which does
not exist now).
4. The healthcare market is fine
pre-PPACA. We have great healthcare! In fact, no one dies from lack
of health insurance (note: I'll talk more about this one in a bit).
That argument deviates from reality.
It's no longer opinions based on real things, it has become opinions
based on falsehoods. The government is not taking over healthcare,
it's not a socialist program, while literally everything is rationed
(i.e., there is only so much "stuff" in the world and
health care is no exception) the idea of a death panel is false
(although that doesn't mean the opposite is true: there will be
unlimited care), and the healthcare in the US pre-PPACA produced
horrible results for much higher amounts of money than similar
countries.
When someone puts forward and argument
of the second sort then the conversation is already over. There's no
way to disagree and yet become better informed, or better understand
their position, or even - gasp - examine the beliefs we hold going
into the conversation (I'm talking more about this in the blog post
I'm writing at the moment, specifically Romney/Ryan vs talking with
extremely conservative Econ professors). In other words, when someone
uses an argument of the 2nd sort then they're not showing interest in
having an honest conversation whereby each side fairly examines the
issues at hand.
The assumptions behind some of the
opinions are falsehoods, that's what I mean when I refer to not
abiding in a shared reality. To go back to the last point in the
second argument: Mitt Romney two days ago suggested that no one in
the US dies from lack of health insurance as part of an argument
against PPACA. The actual number is between 45,000 and 48,000 per
year. In other words, Mitt Romney is claiming that 45,000 to 48,000
is 0. And he's hoping other people allow themselves to believe it!
That's a perfect example of what's so
soul-grating about Romney/Ryan. It's not that they have opinions
different from mine, it goes beyond that. It's not that Romney is
against PPACA, it's that one of the assumptions that's built into his
opinion is that 45,000 to 48,000 is equal to 0. When someone expresses an opinion which
is based on a clearly false assumption then it's frustrating to me.
And when people are persuaded to hold opinions based on assumptions
like 45,000 to 48,000 is 0 then it's even more perplexing
That's why, for example, I think your
comment shows both types of opinions. You say that Obama has been
doing what I'm accusing Romney of doing. Well, that's fine. I think
you're wrong but that's an opinion based on actual performance. It's
your opinion based on real assumptions (e.g., Obama is President,
Obama has a performance record, you're aware of his record, etc).
But the second part is clearly false.
It's bizarre to claim the President has spent his time in office
trying to turn the United States into a 3rd world country. I mean,
for starters he could have just allowed the financial sector (and
thus the world's financial sector) to implode and allowed us to enter
into a depression. He wouldn't even have had to do anything! He could
have simply allowed the consequence of what his Republican
predecessor had done. I mean, it's just obviously totally wrong to
claim that Obama has been actively trying to make the United States a
3rd world country. And what's frustrating isn't that I think that
opinion is wrong, I think plenty of opinions in the world are wrong
and that doesn't bother me, it's that the assumptions built into the
opinion are clearly false.
In other words, to break it down a
bit:
1. Obama did XYZ
2. XYZ are actions one would take if one
wanted to turn the United States into a 3rd would country
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3. So, Obama is trying to turn the United
States into a 3rd world country.
The conclusion isn't the precise thing which frustrates me,
it's the premises. It's believing that he's done things which he
hasn't, and not believing he's done things which he has. We can break
down the Romney healthcare argument as well:
1. 0 people die from lack of health care
in the United States
2. If 0 people die from lack of health
care then it's not a major problem
3. If it's not a major problem then PPACA
was bad
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4. Therefore, PPACA was bad.
Again, it's not the conclusion which is
frustrating. It's the assumption that 0 people die when the number is
45,000 to 48,000 in the United States per year. It's clearly a false
assumption and therefore shouldn't be held or espoused to be true.
Finally - I know... - that's the sort
of thing I refer to when I say we don't share a common reality. I
guess reality in this context could mean something like "reality
is a set of shared assumptions upon which we all form differing
opinions". From the extremely basic (e.g., the Earth is more or
less round, the sky looks blue, gravity is real, etc) to the more
complex (a study done by Harvard on the number of people who die in
the United States each year from lack of health insurance is
reflective of the correct number). With the really basic there are no
problems aside from people taking Intro to Philosophy and thinking
getting high and saying "dude, is the world, like, real?"
is philosophy. But with the latter there have been a lot of problems.
And, I'm sorry, but the problems have
been overwhelmingly on the Republican side. They "don't let
[their] campaign be run by fact-checkers". They claim 45,000 to
48,000 is 0. They claim their budget is "too complex to run
through the numbers right now" and when basic addition and
subtraction says it doesn't add up then they claim they'll hammer out
the details later. They insinuate that going after something which is
.00012% of the federal budget is an effective way to cut spending.
They've left the arena of having differing opinions on real things
and instead created their one reality, one where 45,000 to 48,000 is
0 because that helps their argument, one where addition and
subtraction can be overcome by getting elected, one where .00012% is
actually 1-5% or even over 50%. I just don't see that from the other
side.
Well, to be fair, I do see it in the
various clips which inevitably get shared - but only by white
conservatives, which is weird - of a black person saying he supports
Obama because the President is giving him something. Those are always
accompanied by comments along the lines of "see! this is why
people support Obama! lazy black people looking for a handout from
me" and probably an anecdote like "I was at the store and
saw someone use SNAP and then get into an expensive care - SNAP is
broken and a waste". And always a few self-congratulatory "all
people would be conservative if only they were hardworking,
hardnosed, realistic people - the proof is this video of a lazy
[black] person saying that he's voting for Obama because he wants
free things". I think it's safe to say that the people in the
"Obama's giving me a car; I'm giving him my vote" have
pretty effectively left reality (or, base their opinions on obviously
untrue assumptions).
But that's different from, for
example, the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates centering their
campaign around the same reality-eschewing methodology. And that's
just not something I see happening when it comes to Democrats in
general or Obama specifically. One could try to make the case that they do, but I'm pretty skeptical that one could make a decent case and I'm near certain that no one could make a good case that they do it with equal fervour.
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I know I said finally already. It
probably gave you false hope. But really, this is the appropriate
place for finally!
I believe I told you, but it may have
been a long time ago, that I use StatCounter. I have a sensitive ego
and I like to know people are reading what I write. Anyway,
StatCounter shows me the city, state, computer OS, browser type,
time, etc, of everyone who loads any page on my blog. It also usually
shows any referral link, for example Facebook or Google or whatever
which is pretty cool IMO. I say all this because I originally
couldn't figure out how precisely to get my point across. For
example, my first attempt at a reply was just over 500 words and this
one is clocking in at near 2200.
I say all that because I saw that you
were frequently checking back to see if I had replied, so I felt an
obligation to make my best attempt at clarifying why A) I think
you're wrong and B) why the gist from what I was trying to say wasn't
simply that Romney was saying something untrue. It goes a lot deeper
and wider than that, but I think that's a good starting point or
example.
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Summary
I define reality, in this context, as
something like: "a set of shared assumptions about the nature of
the world". The Earth is more or less round, the Sun gives off
heat, gravity is pulling us down, etc. Then there are more complex
assumptions: studies done by Harvard are generally accurate, the role
of the government should be limited to property rights and national
defense and contract enforcement, the Obama administration's handling
of Mubarak leaving Egypt prevented unnecessary bloodshed in an
inevitable revolution, etc.
We of course base our opinions on all
of these sorts of assumptions. And assumptions on assumptions on
assumptions and so on. There are 2 ways of disagreeing: 1 is to have
differing opinions on the same basic assumptions, the other is to
have differing opinions based on wildly different basic assumptions
(i.e., one opinion is necessarily based on a false assumption and is
therefore the wrong opinion).
The Romney/Ryan campaign is a great
example of the second sort of opinions. They've based their campaign
on obvious falsehoods. For example, saying that 0 people die per year
from lack of health care in the United States and using that
assumption as part of an argument against PPACA. The actual number -
the assumption based in reality - is 45,000 - 48,000 per year. So
that's an example of abandoning reality and making up their own
reality (one in which 45,000 to 48,000 is sometimes 0).
It's that abandoning of reality that's
frustrating. It's not holding opinions different from mine, it's not
the conclusion of the argument (PPPACA is bad). I disagree with the
conclusions and opinions of Romney/Ryan, but hey I disagree with a
lot of opinions.
To paraphrase Rick Perry: "that's an opinion
that's out there, and its got some gaps in it". But differing
opinions don't frustrate me - loads of people abandoning reality and
basing opinions on clearly false assumptions does. I fundamentally
don't get why they don't see reality for what it is. And I also don't
get why the care so little about what reality actually is.
22 million people think .00012% is
greater than 50%. Because they haven't bothered to find out the first
number, they just sort of feel in their gut that it's bigger than
50%. That's an abhorrent opinion to hold! When I see Romney
insinuating that the unknown number is significant then I see Romney
furthering a clearly wrong opinion based on obviously false
assumptions. Everyone should see that and I can't figure out why they
don't.
And Romney/Ryan do this all the time
and millions of people are OK with it. Heck, they welcome it with
open arms! They embrace a false reality and yet continue to abide in
this one. They hold obviously wrong opinions (e.g., 45,000 to 48,000
is 0, .00012% is greater than 50%, basic rules of arithmetic can be
overcome by electing Romney/Ryan, etc) and I can't figure out how or
why.